On Exes Letting Go At Differing Rates

The following is an excerpt from an email to Arnie Lerma on why some exes have a harder time letting go of the concepts and practices in Scientology despite getting hard evidence Hubbard lied and it is a fraud.



Hubbard relied on misdirection and persistent confusion.  The success Jon Atack has in showing the hypnotic commands is something I have been looking at. What you wrote to me  about the subconscious can be relevant here.

In my mind Hubbard used rhetorical methods where he had paces - readily agreeable statements. Then he used ethos (claims of authority), pathos (emotional appeals) and logos (claims of logical methodology or arguments) and sublime writing (writing intended to direct emotional states) to get rapport, lower his victim's guard and distract them from his using other statements. The other statements -OS fill a role and fit a pattern as well.

The OS include contradictions to induce confusion for both hypnotic control and to obfuscate the subject matter in the commands in the future. Obviously loaded language - LL fills a major role in this. LL  uses logos, ethos and pathos to restructure reality subtly.

We believe concepts in terms we use if we are not aware they are or could be false. The ethos, logos and pathos hide the contradiction and repetition too. With much repetition the terms and phrases and slogans replace thought and direct it in turn.

Without those things that hide Hubbard's commands the commands are clear as contradictory IF - and this is vital - they are presented in combination with the ones that directly contradict each other.

This is worth giving more clarification. Bear with me as I am only giving exact relevant details. The other parts induce confusion and that prompts accepting the commands to misdirect attention off the confusion temporarily with lies. That pattern used via repetition conditions habitual increasing submission. The confusions are buried in the subconscious. The commands seem to clarify confusion as they give direction but in truth the mind is only being distracted by trances focusing attention off the confusion. That is sublime writing  using persuasion to guide attention and thereby thought, behavior and emotion and focus attention on and off mental phenomena. And to define the phenomena to fool the victim.

So what Jon Atack often does in his articles is strip off the layers of rhetorical cloaking and put the commands out directly with their immediate contradictory corresponding counterparts. In other words other statements that say clearly ideas that cannot be held logically at the same time  on the same topic. These ideas in the subconscious put out can inspire explosive cognitive dissonance that as Jon Atack has said "reaches critical mass" and then explodes into the confusion coming out.

Now what I am saying next is even more important - with some  victims showing the contradictory doctrine does not open the door to seeing the commands as commands or as odd statements or immoral or even more importantly as contradictory.  

This occurs because  in a hypnotic model the trance is being held in place by something. It can be other commands, other rhetorical content that has not been addressed. Or in cognitive dissonance theory it can be that the ego ( or identity ) of the victim is threatened too much by rejecting Hubbard and his tech as their identity and pride is wrapped up and bonded so much with the value of Hubbard and his tech via seeing their identity as a person rise or fall with Scientology's .

 They cannot see any independent identity as sustainable. They have been made "worthless" in their opinion if Scientology is debunked. So it cannot be fathomed. Ala Tommy Davis' remarks.

In the simplest terms Scientology uses a confusion to get cooperation - both are slight in the beginning. A lie misdirects attention off the confusion. This brings relief - even slight and always temporary. Then another confusion is made to bait the victim more and another misdirection to relieve the confusion via a lie. That these require greater cooperation and increasing submission to direction of action and belief is hidden intentionally. The confusions all remain hidden and the reliefs from them are the "proof" and "wins" and "gains" the deluded victim hangs onto.

If the truth of the contradictions in the doctrine is very clearly exposed and the truth about Hubbard's character and the activities of his followers and a victim STILL is unwilling to even consider the tech as fraudulent or unworkable their is theoretically another issue.

 It goes back to the indoctrination. The victim sees the relief from removing confusion as a real benefit. It feels genuine. Deep down. That is because the relief actually felt good and emotion generated over and over thousands of times in association with something can make the two seem linked in cause and effect. And not subject to contemplation.

The process of Scientology creating confusion then misdirecting attention off it to seem to resolve it with temporary suggested relief is done with lies.

The process is done over and over thousands and thousands of times and hides the confusions, how they are truly "relieved" and most importantly the process itself. The misdirection is lies but feels true. That is the fundamental trance holder.

So to be even more precise - find the confusions that Scientology SEEMED to resolve for a particular victim. Have the person talk in detail about what was confusing. And when I use the term confusions they can be ideas, theories, relationships, social or sexual identity, or emotions or really anything someone is uncertain, uncomfortable or overwhelmed concerning.

They can be quite minor, infinitesimal really or quite enormous or anywhere in between. Size is not entirely relevant though it may correspond to emotional impact for a victim so be aware of this.

 Relatively small confusions may hold tremendous significance as they are put in always in a unique sequence and the delusions that hold them take or set along with them uniquely as well.

So when a particular delusion is examined that carried great influence - regardless of content - the lifting of the influence is the source of the freed emotional content and corresponding reaction and freed critical and independent thinking. The freed thinking can be relative to how much of the delusional state ( or trance or trance states in a hypnotic model ) was held in by a particular "solution" to a confusion.

So when a command served to hold in much of the  delusion ( or trance ) it will release much of the mind to realize this and reevaluate the cult experience.

 Getting enough of the delusion or false beliefs examined - and not just used to trigger delusional interpretations of the events - to free up the mind to a point of doubting on a conscious level is a critical entry point for recovery to be possible.

By getting to that point actual examination of contradictory doctrine and hidden commands with undesirable content can be pursued. For some examining the cult's behavior can inspire some independence. But getting to examine Hubbard's character often helps far more to cast doubt on his authority and even more importantly his doctrine.

The confusion on the doctrine is often the most resistant to consideration as the victim cannot distinguish the "relief" and lies from genuine benefit.

 Plainly they think  that Hubbard despite poor character and fraudulent research and being a person with narcissistic and sociopathic character and a pathological liar and prolific plagiarist  and having dozens of other severe mental health issues  may have done something. They think he may have from theft or honest intent or accidentally combining ideas of others or somehow that is unknown achieved a true beneficial practice.

They have the hardest road - the exact hidden confusions to free them are so personal and often so well hidden to them great compassion, generosity and persistence may be required as they may lash out at any who push them toward the hidden confusions.

 The confusions are unpleasant to face to put it mildly. If they were not there would have been little reason to cooperate with the path away from them . The victim would not change things or try to avoid things that have no meaning for them.

There is more confusion to face when the lies are seen as such. It is a trap that grows to a no one situation. Face the truth and have the lies unravel and face the lies or refuse to face them ( and in the victim's defense they do not usually have a clear idea exactly what happened or what to look at ) and have no independence from a desperate - even frantic - need for Hubbard and his doctrine to be absolutely right always.

Facing the lies is no picnic either. When your identity, religious beliefs, philosophy and framing of and even definition of reality and yourself and everyone else is utterly annihilated all at one rapidly that itself is completely overwhelming and usually quite difficult.

Due to the extreme totalist ( controlling every aspect of thought, emotion, behavior, belief and identity ) nature of Scientology and extreme use of lies over and over to "relieve" confusions virtually every fundamental aspect of reality is thrown into question and doubted as part of fully facing the fraudulent nature for the most heavily indoctrinated and fanatical followers.

It is for some difficult but for others unbearable and so denied and dissociated from as an automatic defense of identity and remaining sanity and may trigger other psychological defense mechanisms.

This defense  is in fact an error but understandable.

Being driven to the brink of a breakdown is undesirable so a mind will resist it as it seems better and in many circumstances avoiding it is a good thing to do. Just not  this time, it is preserving delusion, and not just an eccentricity or neurosis. If the mind is this far gone it is severely compromised. Sorry. Hope this is of some use.

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